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00:01:36,960 from sunny San Diego I'm Gregor wood and 30 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:38,880 we are no strangers to the subject of 31 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:40,920 the ruling elite secret agendas whether 32 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:43,920 it be they're not as advertised esoteric 33 00:01:48,770 --> 00:01:46,409 and occult practices their allegiances 34 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:48,780 to secret societies and think tanks you 35 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:50,670 don't hear about in the news or their 36 00:01:56,749 --> 00:01:53,790 empire expanding ever-present pursuit of 37 00:01:58,850 --> 00:01:56,759 complete globalization yes it seems in 38 00:02:00,590 --> 00:01:58,860 it nearly every time depth there's what 39 00:02:02,929 --> 00:02:00,600 the history books say and then there's 40 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:02,939 the subtext inside stories that end up 41 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:04,710 on the cutting room floor as to not 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:07,140 expose the masses to the very subjects 43 00:02:12,110 --> 00:02:09,810 they work so hard to quarantine the lost 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:12,120 history of advanced civilizations more 45 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:13,810 developed and accurate models 46 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:15,520 for understanding reality and man's 47 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:18,580 place in it advanced technology ether 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:21,220 physics exotic energy sources alchemical 49 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:23,770 sciences entheogens and the kitchen sink 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:25,599 of Secrets we learn a little more about 51 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:28,690 each day these themes seem to be the 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:30,670 undercurrent of so much activity 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:32,170 throughout the human story no matter 54 00:02:36,030 --> 00:02:34,330 where you look so why wouldn't it be 55 00:02:38,130 --> 00:02:36,040 present in the life and times of 56 00:02:40,370 --> 00:02:38,140 Napoleon Bonaparte as well one of the 57 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:40,380 most successful military men in history 58 00:02:44,699 --> 00:02:42,760 well that's the premise of Walter 59 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:44,709 Bosley's latest book the esoteric 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Napoleon a fourth book in his secret 61 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:49,690 mission series and a title that seems to 62 00:02:52,949 --> 00:02:52,209 be kicking off a multi-volume miniseries 63 00:02:55,229 --> 00:02:52,959 of its own 64 00:02:57,180 --> 00:02:55,239 you might remember Walter from several 65 00:02:59,910 --> 00:02:57,190 previous shows covering his books 66 00:03:01,860 --> 00:02:59,920 latitude 33 keys to the kingdom which 67 00:03:04,530 --> 00:03:01,870 explores arcane science and engineering 68 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:04,540 in the making and location of Disneyland 69 00:03:09,870 --> 00:03:07,480 and his empire of the wheel series which 70 00:03:12,180 --> 00:03:09,880 covers the Sonora Aero Club secret 71 00:03:14,820 --> 00:03:12,190 flying crafts the drawings of Charles 72 00:03:17,220 --> 00:03:14,830 del Chou Tesla tech a secret group of 73 00:03:19,860 --> 00:03:17,230 Prussian nationalists known as nimza and 74 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:19,870 so much more he also has an interesting 75 00:03:24,330 --> 00:03:22,390 history serving as a counterintelligence 76 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:24,340 specialist during the final years of the 77 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,950 Cold War a special agent with the Air 78 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:28,480 Force Office of Special Investigations 79 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:31,750 and as a personal security and 80 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:34,390 counterterrorism consultant for various 81 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:36,640 clients around the world it's going to 82 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:39,040 be a wild ride that I am very excited to 83 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:41,769 take the deep state decoder and esoteric 84 00:03:46,770 --> 00:03:44,380 agenda exposure Walter Bosley welcome 85 00:03:48,539 --> 00:03:46,780 back to the higher side hey it's great 86 00:03:50,670 --> 00:03:48,549 to be here great thanks for having me 87 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:50,680 yeah thanks for being here I think this 88 00:03:55,289 --> 00:03:52,600 is gonna be a lot of fun you've written 89 00:03:57,090 --> 00:03:55,299 about some pretty amazing material over 90 00:03:59,819 --> 00:03:57,100 the years and you're really good at 91 00:04:01,770 --> 00:03:59,829 finding new places to look when I saw 92 00:04:03,870 --> 00:04:01,780 the ISA Tarek Napoleon I knew it was 93 00:04:06,569 --> 00:04:03,880 gonna be a great read I was not very 94 00:04:08,699 --> 00:04:06,579 knowledgeable about Napoleon in general 95 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,709 honestly I'd of course heard the 96 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:10,720 provocative rumor about him spending the 97 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:12,010 night in the King's Chamber the Great 98 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:13,510 Pyramid and coming out all flustered 99 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:16,000 something will definitely get into but 100 00:04:20,909 --> 00:04:18,160 to get the mental wheels turning out 101 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:20,919 there tell us a bit about how Napoleon 102 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:23,260 became the subject of a new book in the 103 00:04:26,690 --> 00:04:25,120 secret mission series and this kind of 104 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:26,700 thematic thread that 105 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:30,510 weaves between these books well it does 106 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:33,930 have an interesting background for some 107 00:04:42,430 --> 00:04:38,130 years now dating back to 2014 as I 108 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:42,440 recall it Joseph Ferrell and I have 109 00:04:48,980 --> 00:04:45,930 discussed our personal curiosities about 110 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:48,990 the Louisiana Purchase and of course 111 00:04:53,330 --> 00:04:50,970 many may not know that Napoleon 112 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:53,340 Bonaparte was the one that sold the 113 00:04:58,490 --> 00:04:55,710 Louisiana territory to the United States 114 00:05:01,430 --> 00:04:58,500 is the one who made the deal with Thomas 115 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Jefferson which Congress wasn't too 116 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:03,090 thrilled about at the time they felt 117 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:07,020 that he exceeded his powers but when 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:08,910 they saw that it doubled the size of the 119 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:11,370 then United States they you know kinda 120 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:12,270 went along with it 121 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:15,690 so with our curiosities about the whys 122 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:19,110 and wherefores of the sale I mean there 123 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:21,930 is the known history of the political in 124 00:05:26,690 --> 00:05:24,960 the more expedient reasons why Napoleon 125 00:05:29,060 --> 00:05:26,700 sold it but you know we always wondered 126 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:29,070 what did the French find there did they 127 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:32,010 find something before the sale you know 128 00:05:35,750 --> 00:05:34,110 but just there's all sorts of 129 00:05:38,030 --> 00:05:35,760 interesting things not the least of 130 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:38,040 which is the very curious death of 131 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:40,260 Meriwether Lewis who was very likely 132 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:43,110 murdered you know he was of the Lewis 133 00:05:47,690 --> 00:05:46,050 and Clark expedition of course that went 134 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:47,700 and explored the Louisiana territory 135 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:49,560 right after the purchase so with all 136 00:05:56,290 --> 00:05:52,350 these interesting mysteries Napoleon was 137 00:05:59,750 --> 00:05:56,300 kind of on my plate of curiosities and 138 00:06:04,040 --> 00:05:59,760 early last year I think it was February 139 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:04,050 of 2018 I went to visit Joseph with 140 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:06,690 another friend and we went to his 141 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:09,810 favorite used book Emporium this huge it 142 00:06:14,780 --> 00:06:11,370 was even bigger before but they've 143 00:06:19,310 --> 00:06:14,790 downsized a big book Emporium where he 144 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:19,320 lives and I happen to find an edition of 145 00:06:24,410 --> 00:06:21,210 a book that I'd heard of but I'd never 146 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:24,420 seen titled Bonaparte in Egypt at 147 00:06:30,170 --> 00:06:27,360 Christopher Harold and there was only 148 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:30,180 one copy so I scooped that up and I just 149 00:06:34,310 --> 00:06:32,760 got it as extra reading curiosity 150 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:34,320 because what I was actually intending to 151 00:06:38,930 --> 00:06:36,840 work on last year was the follow-up to 152 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:38,940 secret missions one about Juan Cabrillo 153 00:06:41,850 --> 00:06:39,820 and 154 00:06:45,390 --> 00:06:41,860 also found a book about California 155 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:45,400 history on the same day and purchased 156 00:06:48,270 --> 00:06:46,090 that as well 157 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:48,280 and actually read that one first before 158 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:50,470 I picked up the bonaparte in egypt book 159 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:53,490 well as I read Bonaparte in Egypt I 160 00:06:59,850 --> 00:06:56,760 realized how much I did not know 161 00:07:02,220 --> 00:06:59,860 previously about Napoleon Bonaparte all 162 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:02,230 I knew was what we're all taught in 163 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:05,770 school in movies and TV and popular 164 00:07:12,270 --> 00:07:09,810 culture that he was this glum fat bald 165 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:12,280 megalomaniac and that's really all there 166 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:14,650 was to him and of course in some extreme 167 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:17,320 cases the Antichrist of the 19th century 168 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:19,930 in all this well as I read the herald 169 00:07:25,950 --> 00:07:23,170 book as I said I learned things about 170 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:25,960 Napoleon that I did not know when he 171 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:28,000 went to Egypt he wasn't yet thirty years 172 00:07:34,110 --> 00:07:30,040 old and I'm reading that he's a 173 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:34,120 long-haired slim great-looking guy the 174 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:37,510 women adored him men just idolized him 175 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:38,860 that getting this complete different 176 00:07:43,820 --> 00:07:41,470 picture of Napoleon but also in this one 177 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:43,830 book I'm learning about his fascination 178 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:47,680 his primary love for science and ancient 179 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:50,260 history and and you know those kind of 180 00:07:55,770 --> 00:07:52,960 world Explorer type mysteries that are 181 00:07:57,570 --> 00:07:55,780 popular today and again this I didn't 182 00:07:59,760 --> 00:07:57,580 know about Napoleon so as I'm reading 183 00:08:02,610 --> 00:07:59,770 this book I'm realizing wait a minute 184 00:08:05,730 --> 00:08:02,620 there's a big story here and oh my gosh 185 00:08:08,490 --> 00:08:05,740 this looks like secret mission series 186 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:08,500 material here and sure enough the more I 187 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:11,110 read the more I became convinced that 188 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:13,690 Napoleon Bonaparte definitely deserved 189 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:15,850 to get what I call the secret missions 190 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:17,530 treatment that from my series of books 191 00:08:25,710 --> 00:08:22,030 so I decided after finishing the Herold 192 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:25,720 book I got my hands on another biography 193 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:27,490 and before I was done with that 194 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:30,700 biography I decided my gosh I need to 195 00:08:38,010 --> 00:08:33,790 really dig into this man's story because 196 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:38,020 as you said that curious tale about the 197 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:41,260 night he spent in the pyramid was one of 198 00:08:45,450 --> 00:08:43,330 those things Farrell and I would talk 199 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:45,460 about and you know I had wondered about 200 00:08:51,150 --> 00:08:47,920 over the years and it was looking like 201 00:08:53,070 --> 00:08:51,160 that that was something that at least he 202 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:53,080 actually did 203 00:08:57,270 --> 00:08:55,060 spend time in the pyramid and I realized 204 00:08:59,870 --> 00:08:57,280 okay I've got to dig into this and it 205 00:09:02,880 --> 00:08:59,880 ended up being just reading over almost 206 00:09:06,290 --> 00:09:02,890 6,000 pages of biographical material and 207 00:09:09,390 --> 00:09:06,300 Napoleon just the bio material alone and 208 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,400 I'll tell you by halfway through it I 209 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:11,440 could become to call me a bona partisan 210 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,790 I am a fan of Napoleon Bonaparte he is I 211 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:17,920 considered to be one of the most 212 00:09:23,580 --> 00:09:19,930 slandered and lied about historical 213 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:23,590 figures in known history and that's kind 214 00:09:28,530 --> 00:09:26,320 of how it happened mmm-hmm yes and I 215 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:28,540 wanted to get into that perception of 216 00:09:31,740 --> 00:09:30,280 the man a little bit more because I did 217 00:09:33,330 --> 00:09:31,750 have it written down right here that you 218 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:33,340 referred to him as one of the most 219 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:35,410 slandered men in history and like you 220 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:37,210 had mentioned the conventional view I 221 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:39,760 think most people have is to consider 222 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:42,610 him an aggressive egomaniac or 223 00:09:47,490 --> 00:09:45,040 tyrannical conquer hell-bent on 224 00:09:49,940 --> 00:09:47,500 expanding the Empire but you consider 225 00:09:52,650 --> 00:09:49,950 him a philosopher and an esoteric 226 00:09:55,610 --> 00:09:52,660 scientist at heart what would you tell 227 00:09:57,870 --> 00:09:55,620 people to expand on that and maybe 228 00:09:59,670 --> 00:09:57,880 countering the conventional view of him 229 00:10:01,070 --> 00:09:59,680 and making the case that he was more 230 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:01,080 than meets the eye 231 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:03,790 well first of all that image that 232 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:06,010 erroneous image that we have all been 233 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:11,020 fed that is a direct product of 19th 234 00:10:18,030 --> 00:10:15,130 century British propaganda and lies and 235 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:18,040 when I say from now on in this 236 00:10:21,210 --> 00:10:19,600 conversation from here out in this 237 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:21,220 conversation and when you read it in the 238 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:23,470 book when I refer to the Brits of the 239 00:10:27,870 --> 00:10:25,510 British I am referring to the 240 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:27,880 aristocracy I'm referring to their 241 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:30,160 government at the time the British 242 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:34,510 people actually kind of admired Napoleon 243 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:37,270 just like the peoples of the countries 244 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:39,700 that he invaded you know and defeated 245 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:41,860 their armies he would go and he would do 246 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:45,190 these civic improvements and the peoples 247 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:46,570 of these countries the actual people 248 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:49,060 himself would end up liking the guy or 249 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:49,780 loving it 250 00:10:55,980 --> 00:10:52,990 but it was the aristocracy and between 251 00:10:59,210 --> 00:10:55,990 the British aristocracy and the house of 252 00:11:03,090 --> 00:10:59,220 SD which was the major overarching 253 00:11:05,940 --> 00:11:03,100 dynasty that had their members and 254 00:11:07,890 --> 00:11:05,950 pretty much all the thrones of Europe 255 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:07,900 they were the ones they in England were 256 00:11:12,330 --> 00:11:10,450 the ones and primarily the British when 257 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:12,340 it comes to the worst slander of it all 258 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:14,440 they're the ones responsible for this 259 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:17,560 image of the megalomania and it was all 260 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:20,980 because at the time that Napoleon 261 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:23,820 emerged the British Empire was still 262 00:11:29,130 --> 00:11:27,550 rising and they had just been 263 00:11:31,830 --> 00:11:29,140 embarrassed in front of the whole world 264 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:31,840 by the American Revolution and they 265 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:34,330 weren't about now to let this French 266 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:36,910 upstart as they saw him come in and 267 00:11:42,750 --> 00:11:39,550 steal their thunder and prevent their 268 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:42,760 vision their determination for their 269 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:44,350 empire and that's really what the 270 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:47,050 British were all about I had never 271 00:11:54,330 --> 00:11:50,830 looked at the the British aristocracy in 272 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:54,340 the government as being as shameful the 273 00:11:59,820 --> 00:11:57,310 shame lest I should say in how they 274 00:12:02,520 --> 00:11:59,830 handle the whole Napoleonic issue as 275 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:02,530 they did during the 19th century it's 276 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:06,970 it's obvious when you look closely yeah 277 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:08,890 well I mean I'm not surprised that the 278 00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:10,990 British Empire would be capable of 279 00:12:15,180 --> 00:12:12,550 pumping out some pretty potent 280 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:15,190 propaganda about somebody right and as 281 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:16,960 you mentioned that when he conquered a 282 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:19,330 place he kind of laid out his vision and 283 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:21,010 it would make things better for the 284 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:23,830 people as opposed to the elites almost 285 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:26,110 like a general Robin Hood and this is 286 00:12:32,070 --> 00:12:28,930 not the perception I had I mean we use 287 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:32,080 these terms like invader or conquer but 288 00:12:38,070 --> 00:12:35,590 apparently he only started one of the 289 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:38,080 nine Napoleonic Wars anyway so I mean 290 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:40,150 how can we say invader if most of the 291 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:41,590 MER started from the other side is that 292 00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:45,970 right oh yeah that that is crazy they 293 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:49,060 called this the Napoleonic Wars this era 294 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:51,130 there were nine of them and he only 295 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:52,930 started one and that was with Spain and 296 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:55,570 that was over a legitimate violation by 297 00:13:00,060 --> 00:12:57,310 the Spanish of a treaty that they had 298 00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:00,070 signed with him with France and the 299 00:13:05,310 --> 00:13:02,320 other eight wars were started by England 300 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:05,320 and the house of SD and their allies in 301 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:07,450 Europe it really should have been called 302 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:10,330 the wars of British and European 303 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:13,090 dynastic aggression is what it should 304 00:13:16,290 --> 00:13:14,740 have been called because that's what 305 00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:16,300 they were and they got to the point 306 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:18,190 where they openly were just stating that 307 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:19,120 they were declaring 308 00:13:23,220 --> 00:13:21,310 I'm the man himself on Napoleon 309 00:13:26,660 --> 00:13:23,230 Bonaparte himself so we see the 310 00:13:30,450 --> 00:13:26,670 beginnings of the philosophical 311 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:30,460 collectivist assault on the idea of a 312 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:34,270 strongman leader okay we see that the 313 00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:36,730 beginnings of we must always demonize 314 00:13:43,380 --> 00:13:40,480 the strong charismatic leader because a 315 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:43,390 strong charismatic leader can do great 316 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:46,089 evil and destructive things but the flip 317 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:47,710 side of that coin is a strong 318 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:50,529 charismatic leader doing good things on 319 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:52,870 the site of good can't be beat by any 320 00:13:58,980 --> 00:13:56,410 dynasty or collectivist body and so with 321 00:14:01,910 --> 00:13:58,990 Napoleon in the Napoleonic era we see 322 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:01,920 the beginnings of the philosophical 323 00:14:08,190 --> 00:14:04,930 collectivists kind of sharpening their 324 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:08,200 teeth on you know how to tear down a 325 00:14:15,390 --> 00:14:13,810 great leader and it just it is it's kind 326 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:15,400 of astonishing to some of the guy mean 327 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:16,930 they would tell stories to their 328 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:19,240 children you know that Napoleon 329 00:14:23,699 --> 00:14:21,790 Bonaparte will take you away and boil 330 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:23,709 you up in a kettle and eat you and and 331 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:24,940 that kind of are just the most 332 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:26,770 ridiculous they just wanted to turn him 333 00:14:32,250 --> 00:14:30,310 into a boogeyman really yes that is a 334 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:32,260 good breakdown and blaming the 335 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:35,410 opposition is a common tactic for 336 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:37,990 empires especially the British one but 337 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:40,420 to play devil's advocate a little bit 338 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:43,330 here I wonder if we are romanticizing 339 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:45,160 him a little bit because there are 340 00:14:49,260 --> 00:14:47,620 probably lots of conquerors in history 341 00:14:51,420 --> 00:14:49,270 who think they made improvements to the 342 00:14:53,490 --> 00:14:51,430 places they invaded and I know you're a 343 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:53,500 military guy more than myself and a lot 344 00:14:57,210 --> 00:14:55,180 of these characters in history are also 345 00:15:00,060 --> 00:14:57,220 more complex than we give them credit 346 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:00,070 for but I have heard some critics give 347 00:15:05,550 --> 00:15:03,490 pretty insane numbers for the deaths in 348 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Napoleon's wake and we're not just 349 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:07,330 talking about soldiers some people have 350 00:15:11,370 --> 00:15:09,850 even used the word exterminate when it 351 00:15:12,780 --> 00:15:11,380 comes to how Napoleon felt about 352 00:15:15,690 --> 00:15:12,790 different cultures he encountered 353 00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:15,700 especially non-european ones and I'm 354 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:17,620 know I know nothing you know that I was 355 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:18,880 just trying to prepare for this 356 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:20,260 interview and I guess I'd asked you 357 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:22,810 consider that stuff part of the 358 00:15:27,780 --> 00:15:25,209 propaganda or truth somewhere in the 359 00:15:31,380 --> 00:15:27,790 middle well it's a little bit of it's a 360 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:31,390 little bit of both in a way 361 00:15:37,889 --> 00:15:35,279 what you've got is a bunch of propaganda 362 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:37,899 exaggerating what did happen what you 363 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:41,290 have are a couple of instances now we 364 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:43,390 have to remember when I say hey I'm a 365 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:45,490 fan of Napoleon Bonaparte by no means 366 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:47,620 was the man perfect he did make mistakes 367 00:15:52,889 --> 00:15:50,410 like any other human leader we've ever 368 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:52,899 had even the best of them and he would 369 00:15:57,389 --> 00:15:55,690 admit when he realized oh my gosh you 370 00:15:59,610 --> 00:15:57,399 know that was the wrong thing and he 371 00:16:04,530 --> 00:15:59,620 would try to fix that and make 372 00:16:06,630 --> 00:16:04,540 reparations so the truth is that you 373 00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:06,640 know yeah there were some things you can 374 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:08,079 point to absolutely 375 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:09,910 but when you read the biographical 376 00:16:15,810 --> 00:16:12,310 material it's nowhere near like the 377 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:15,820 propaganda plays that out to be when you 378 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:17,470 look at the circumstances in the details 379 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:21,430 you find out that it wasn't as much as 380 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,690 is exaggerated you find out that a lot 381 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:27,519 of it he was not personally responsible 382 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:30,490 for and he did not approve of what was 383 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:34,510 done in certain cases so it's kind of 384 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:35,890 like you say the truth is somewhere 385 00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:39,550 between the adoring fans and its 386 00:16:45,329 --> 00:16:42,760 greatest critics yes as is often the 387 00:16:47,730 --> 00:16:45,339 case and that was a pretty good response 388 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:47,740 it's just something I wanted to at least 389 00:16:53,069 --> 00:16:50,560 address pretty early on here I respect 390 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:53,079 that you're a fan I really have no dog 391 00:16:57,389 --> 00:16:54,970 in the fight on a lot of the people we 392 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:57,399 talk about and if they were a good or 393 00:17:02,910 --> 00:16:59,920 bad person at heart just like John Dee 394 00:17:05,340 --> 00:17:02,920 or Sir Francis Bacon or even when we 395 00:17:07,049 --> 00:17:05,350 talk about aspects of the top brass of 396 00:17:09,929 --> 00:17:07,059 the Nazi organization usually I'm 397 00:17:12,299 --> 00:17:09,939 looking past the morality stuff anyway I 398 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:12,309 don't think I leave a lot of people in 399 00:17:16,650 --> 00:17:13,809 positions of power but I'm more 400 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:16,660 interested at this point and just using 401 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:18,569 these figures as a gateway to 402 00:17:23,790 --> 00:17:20,650 understanding and opening up more of 403 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:23,800 that secret history and esoteric 404 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:25,689 knowledge that you tend to do such a 405 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:28,809 great job digging up here's a way to 406 00:17:35,130 --> 00:17:31,809 look at or to describe Napoleon he was 407 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:35,140 imperfect there were some missteps he 408 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:39,160 was by no means and Adolf Hitler nor was 409 00:17:44,910 --> 00:17:41,710 he an antichrist and that's really a way 410 00:17:46,620 --> 00:17:44,920 you can put it fair fair and 411 00:17:48,810 --> 00:17:46,630 get more into the esoteric side of 412 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:48,820 things just as we've speculated with 413 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:50,710 previous guests about treasures and 414 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:54,190 artifacts in the Baghdad Museum being 415 00:17:58,860 --> 00:17:56,290 more of a priority to the invasion of 416 00:18:01,290 --> 00:17:58,870 Iraq than was advertised you suggest 417 00:18:03,330 --> 00:18:01,300 that secret codes mysteries and 418 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:03,340 treasures might have fueled Napoleon's 419 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:06,100 conquest particularly places in Italy to 420 00:18:11,250 --> 00:18:08,590 start what might those have been what 421 00:18:14,130 --> 00:18:11,260 could he have been seeking I think in 422 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:14,140 general he was seeking any information 423 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:17,770 that he could get on how I like to 424 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:20,440 phrase it the 425 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:23,110 lost technology of the forgotten 426 00:18:29,460 --> 00:18:27,100 civilization call it Atlantis call it 427 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:29,470 the rum empire call it whatever you want 428 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:33,400 but whatever that lost age or golden age 429 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:36,190 some call it of human history is that 430 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:39,670 left traces behind in for instance the 431 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:42,160 megalithic structures or the out of 432 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:43,840 place artifacts that are you know these 433 00:18:49,140 --> 00:18:46,140 these more technologically advanced 434 00:18:52,410 --> 00:18:49,150 objects that shouldn't exist in the era 435 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:52,420 where they were found the clues are all 436 00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:53,380 over the world 437 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:55,750 I think these mysteries fascinated him 438 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:00,160 and the biographers say that his first 439 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:02,980 love intellectual love with science and 440 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:06,010 history he was much more interested in 441 00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:09,490 that than politics all the politics seem 442 00:19:14,730 --> 00:19:11,980 to be just an expedient measure or you 443 00:19:17,730 --> 00:19:14,740 know part of what he was thrust into and 444 00:19:20,010 --> 00:19:17,740 and don't mistake what I'm saying he 445 00:19:22,890 --> 00:19:20,020 excelled at that it's not that he didn't 446 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:22,900 like that once he got into it but he 447 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:27,210 excelled at it he was a civics genius 448 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:30,580 Napoleonic law still is the foundation 449 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:33,250 for French law to this day the way 450 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:35,050 cities are laid out all sorts of 451 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:36,880 interesting things even our own street 452 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:38,320 address system here in the United States 453 00:19:43,020 --> 00:19:41,110 and other places in the world where it's 454 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:43,030 even numbers on one side of the street 455 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:45,730 not on the other that's Napoleon that 456 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:48,190 was Napoleon's designs that came up with 457 00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:52,480 that so he left a lasting impression and 458 00:19:57,690 --> 00:19:55,360 you could say to some degree he's one of 459 00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:57,700 those few who helped create our modern 460 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:00,400 world up there with Tesla you know in 461 00:20:07,410 --> 00:20:03,880 the Civic's way so here was a guy who 462 00:20:09,690 --> 00:20:07,420 was interested in science in ancient 463 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:09,700 history primarily more than anything 464 00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:12,910 else and he was a math whiz this is why 465 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,040 he they say why he went into artillery 466 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:17,200 because math is important in artillery 467 00:20:21,450 --> 00:20:18,850 and he was an artillery genius he is 468 00:20:27,910 --> 00:20:21,460 still studied in war colleges all over 469 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:30,070 one of the things he started doing early 470 00:20:36,340 --> 00:20:33,050 when he you know was part of the 471 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:36,350 military machine of France was he would 472 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:40,730 target places that yeah had interests to 473 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:44,690 him in this regard so one of the things 474 00:20:49,930 --> 00:20:46,880 he was keenly interested in was getting 475 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:49,940 his hands on any documents that had been 476 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:52,490 in possession of the Vatican he thought 477 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:55,370 maybe he could glean something from on 478 00:21:00,010 --> 00:20:57,650 you know this ancient secret this 479 00:21:03,370 --> 00:21:00,020 ancient world that was lost but he was 480 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:03,380 also I think very interested in his own 481 00:21:11,140 --> 00:21:07,390 personal history I think he suspected 482 00:21:15,010 --> 00:21:11,150 early on that he might have been of a 483 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:15,020 very important domestic line and this 484 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:17,810 was also part of why he was looking at 485 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:20,960 some of these sites and pursuing some of 486 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:22,670 the places and things that he pursued 487 00:21:29,340 --> 00:21:25,490 yes well said and definitely there is 488 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:29,350 this element of a Da Vinci Code type of 489 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:33,520 encoding of arts that relates to 490 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,950 nobility and bloodlines and secret 491 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:38,720 lovers and all that kind of stuff that's 492 00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:41,030 definitely a big part of part two of 493 00:21:46,450 --> 00:21:44,270 this book and you also note that when he 494 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:46,460 took over a place he did demand a list 495 00:21:50,770 --> 00:21:49,130 of any art uncovered paintings and 496 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:50,780 sculptures that kind of helps to make 497 00:21:54,430 --> 00:21:52,940 the case that that was of heightened 498 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,440 interest and you mentioned things from 499 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:56,000 the Vatican I thought it was really 500 00:22:00,370 --> 00:21:57,890 interesting when he finally forged a 501 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:00,380 peace treaty with Venice he demanded 502 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:04,190 several Navy ships 15 million francs 20 503 00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:07,970 paintings and 500 Vatican manuscripts 504 00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:10,190 and it's like man that sounds like the 505 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:11,870 real prize of course you got to throw in 506 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:13,880 some ships and some cash right just to 507 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:15,500 hide the fact that you really want these 508 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:18,770 manuscripts or to keep your employer 509 00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,810 happy right yeah you're having this for 510 00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:23,120 your country and the government back 511 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:25,580 home expects you to get resources so the 512 00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:28,070 money in the ships legitimately cover 513 00:22:32,890 --> 00:22:31,190 that need but yeah the stuff regarding 514 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:32,900 the manuscripts and the art that was his 515 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:35,510 own now even the art he would forward to 516 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:38,240 France that was to go for the National 517 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:40,000 Museum for France's 518 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:42,100 cultural tastes and interests and all 519 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:44,140 the stuff but you're right the document 520 00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:47,050 that was primarily in all him and what's 521 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:48,220 interesting is there's that little 522 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:50,890 episode where they gave him three 523 00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:53,410 hundred manuscripts okay and he 524 00:22:58,380 --> 00:22:55,840 contacted them back and informed them no 525 00:23:01,920 --> 00:22:58,390 no the agreement was five hundred I 526 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:01,930 expect the remaining two hundred and you 527 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:03,610 know he got them and what's interesting 528 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:07,090 is what he was looking for in them that 529 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:09,190 can only be guessed at now I'll be going 530 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:12,490 into the details in the pursuing the 531 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:13,810 unanswered questions from this book 532 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:16,360 regarding the art and the manuscripts in 533 00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:19,050 the second volume of this particular 534 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:21,990 chapter of the secret missions figures 535 00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:25,210 but when you look at it even from the 536 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:29,260 outside it's obvious okay he was looking 537 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:31,090 for something arcane's 538 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:34,330 clearly and the challenge will be of 539 00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:35,830 course you know in the in the next 540 00:23:41,340 --> 00:23:37,300 volume is for me to dig into those 541 00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:41,350 details mm-hmm yes and patacon archives 542 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:43,800 are definitely provocative to me and 543 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:46,480 speaking of employers as you mentioned 544 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:49,890 I'm also always interested in secret 545 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:52,720 allegiances and hidden financial backers 546 00:23:57,420 --> 00:23:54,940 and you mentioned this too to quote the 547 00:23:59,910 --> 00:23:57,430 book that remains in the material about 548 00:24:01,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Napoleon a hint of suggestion that he 549 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:01,570 represented in interests that 550 00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:04,090 represented him from offstage where it 551 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:06,760 so often counts was an unseen backer a 552 00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:08,770 factor in Napoleon's victory over Italy 553 00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:11,440 and I would ask the same question I 554 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,870 think we've all seen the paintings of 555 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:15,760 Napoleon with his hand in his shirt what 556 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:18,040 people suspect is a hidden hands-free 557 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:20,890 masonic hand gesture of some type when 558 00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:22,510 your thoughts on this secret backer 559 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:26,430 question well that's definitely a main 560 00:24:34,770 --> 00:24:30,520 thread that is one of the purposes for 561 00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:34,780 vol ii what i think about it is we have 562 00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:38,830 no record that napoleon himself was a 563 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:42,660 Mason however he was surrounded by 564 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:46,330 several Masons and Freemasonry back then 565 00:24:49,650 --> 00:24:49,270 was pretty open about their support of 566 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:49,660 him 567 00:24:55,530 --> 00:24:53,770 would make little 568 00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:55,540 jokes about them he would still dine 569 00:24:59,130 --> 00:24:56,950 with them and socialize them and of 570 00:25:01,860 --> 00:24:59,140 course as I said he was surrounded by 571 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:01,870 freemasons but what I'm thinking what 572 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:03,910 I'm seeing and what I'm exploring and 573 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:06,640 we're searching right now is what I see 574 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:09,160 in all this is more of an implication of 575 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:12,580 a more secret society than Freemasonry 576 00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:15,760 or at least one that's not so out there 577 00:25:20,430 --> 00:25:18,700 on the stage of history and digging into 578 00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:20,440 this and this is the kind of 579 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:22,360 organization that certainly Freemasons 580 00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:25,290 would have also been a member of and 581 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:28,480 we're looking at something a little more 582 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:30,520 like the stories we hear about Jules 583 00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:33,310 Verne so this would have been an 584 00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:37,620 organization you know pretty dedicated 585 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:40,300 similarly to the ideas of Freemasonry 586 00:25:47,730 --> 00:25:43,450 but a little more dedicated to the 587 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:47,740 mission of digging into and finding and 588 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:50,350 retrieving the evidence and knowledge of 589 00:25:58,740 --> 00:25:54,780 the past the lost past and how it could 590 00:26:01,530 --> 00:25:58,750 shape the future and as I said these 591 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:01,540 ideas are going to be really the main 592 00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:04,600 impetus for volume two and I think 593 00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:08,680 definitely that Napoleon was being 594 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:12,790 guided by the hand of whatever it is 595 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:14,710 whatever it was whoever this was 596 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:17,290 whatever the organization was and I 597 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:19,990 think that's clear in his actions and in 598 00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:22,810 his association I also suspect the 599 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Knights Templar whatever form they were 600 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:27,970 in at the time you know of course to be 601 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:30,490 deeply involved in the life of Napoleon 602 00:26:35,130 --> 00:26:32,650 I even suggest that maybe they were 603 00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:35,140 involved in the matchmaking that 604 00:26:40,890 --> 00:26:37,720 resulted in he and his older brothers 605 00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:40,900 birth hmm so you have the knight Templar 606 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:45,220 in the mix as well yes and I'm with you 607 00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:48,400 on the idea that oftentimes we have 608 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:50,380 groups within groups there's so much 609 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:53,230 counter espionage and infiltration you 610 00:26:57,660 --> 00:26:55,750 really can't use these labels another 611 00:27:00,570 --> 00:26:57,670 conspiracy culture tends to paint with a 612 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:00,580 broad brush so it's good to break that 613 00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:03,520 down and be more accurate and the first 614 00:27:07,470 --> 00:27:05,950 section of the three in your book for me 615 00:27:08,970 --> 00:27:07,480 is the real sweet spot 616 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:08,980 you start off with a bang and get 617 00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:11,529 straight into his expedition of Egypt 618 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:14,200 where he made a pit stop in Malta first 619 00:27:18,269 --> 00:27:15,970 but tell us about some of the 620 00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:18,279 preparation for this trip and the 621 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:20,500 stopover in Malta the clues that point 622 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,010 to it being more about lost secrets of 623 00:27:27,930 --> 00:27:25,600 esoterica as opposed to a general goal 624 00:27:29,910 --> 00:27:27,940 of just expanding the French Empire and 625 00:27:31,890 --> 00:27:29,920 its territories 626 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,900 well here's what's interesting and I 627 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:34,480 think this is evidence that Napoleon was 628 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:38,730 indeed using the military and political 629 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:42,390 aspects of this as an expedient to 630 00:27:48,210 --> 00:27:45,540 really pursue his personal interests as 631 00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:48,220 regards ancient history of the mysteries 632 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:51,790 of our past and that is that the idea of 633 00:27:58,860 --> 00:27:55,210 France invading you know with the idea 634 00:28:01,530 --> 00:27:58,870 of colonizing Egypt had been around for 635 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:01,540 you know at least I think a couple 636 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:05,049 hundred years in France now there had 637 00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:07,750 been several plans over the course of 638 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:09,070 the years in the decades leading up to 639 00:28:16,049 --> 00:28:13,260 his life his own lifetime that had been 640 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,059 presented to the French government the 641 00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:18,880 French King what-have-you in his day 642 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:21,220 there was this there emerged this thing 643 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:27,150 called the directory and he simply 644 00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:30,610 piggybacked on a plan that existed that 645 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:33,880 was virtually the same as his plan that 646 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:36,850 he presented except that original plan 647 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:41,110 had the invasion of France staged from 648 00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:45,520 Crete what Napoleon did was he entered 649 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:48,309 the the idea of using Malta as the 650 00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:52,690 launching platform to Egypt now to us 651 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:55,240 you know these days the flag goes up 652 00:28:59,789 --> 00:28:57,610 when we go oh isn't that interesting he 653 00:29:02,610 --> 00:28:59,799 you know wants to use Malta instead of 654 00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:02,620 Crete well this would be for the obvious 655 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:06,400 reasons there were the the Knights of 656 00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:10,240 Malta of course were there and very much 657 00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:12,190 like the Knights Templar and other 658 00:29:18,270 --> 00:29:14,620 orders of the day these were guys who 659 00:29:21,419 --> 00:29:18,280 were historians they were scholars of 660 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:21,429 the arcane and the very same things that 661 00:29:25,650 --> 00:29:23,290 you know we're talking about Napoleon 662 00:29:27,539 --> 00:29:25,660 was interested in Mason's are interested 663 00:29:30,539 --> 00:29:27,549 in and such and of course we know that 664 00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:30,549 there are some pretty curious megalithic 665 00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:33,760 structures and other arcane historical 666 00:29:41,159 --> 00:29:37,470 mysteries connected with Malta and I 667 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,169 argue that he was quite aware of this 668 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:43,600 and that this was a primary 669 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,110 that he chose Malta now it so happens 670 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:48,880 that Malta was also a very good 671 00:29:54,390 --> 00:29:51,990 strategic move so it was perfect 672 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:54,400 everything just fell into place for this 673 00:29:59,250 --> 00:29:57,250 guy the stars were right his interest is 674 00:30:03,750 --> 00:29:59,260 personal interest with a primary motive 675 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:03,760 for personal motive for going to Egypt 676 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:08,049 and it just so happened that the perfect 677 00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:10,210 place that he needed to go see that he 678 00:30:15,539 --> 00:30:12,160 wanted the stage from was also an 679 00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:15,549 excellent strategic choice so it made it 680 00:30:20,940 --> 00:30:18,220 the circumstances made it so easy for 681 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,950 him to convince France the French 682 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:23,440 government to back him on this given the 683 00:30:29,789 --> 00:30:26,289 resources and let him go to Egypt now 684 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:29,799 let's not be naive at the time there 685 00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:32,130 were people in the French government 686 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Maurice 687 00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:36,370 Talleyrand among them who liked nothing 688 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:39,190 better than the idea of getting this 689 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:43,330 this young upstart whose popularity was 690 00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:46,210 growing rapidly they loved the idea of 691 00:30:52,169 --> 00:30:49,000 getting him as far away from France as 692 00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:52,179 possible so they loved the idea they 693 00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:53,950 supported they said yes letting the put 694 00:30:58,830 --> 00:30:56,470 given the ships he needs given the army 695 00:31:01,529 --> 00:30:58,840 given all the supplies let him go to 696 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,539 Egypt he'll probably die there either 697 00:31:06,539 --> 00:31:04,000 get filled or languish and then we don't 698 00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:06,549 have competition or you know anyone to 699 00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:09,700 block our political goals and aims so it 700 00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:12,220 did serve some of their more cynical 701 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:15,640 desires to see him go so for all these 702 00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:17,710 reasons that it was good for France 703 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:20,140 strategically and they wanted Napoleon 704 00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,500 out of the way they backed him now he 705 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:25,360 just used that because he wasn't naive 706 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:27,340 he knew what was going on with that he 707 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:29,650 said great you know I'm in command of 708 00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:31,240 this army and they're going to give me 709 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,669 what I need so what he did was was 710 00:31:38,010 --> 00:31:35,200 something that hadn't really been done 711 00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:38,020 on this scale since the time of 712 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:39,100 Alexander the Great 713 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:40,809 I think a previous French King had done 714 00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:42,730 this a little bit and the various 715 00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:44,470 Knightly orders during the Crusades had 716 00:31:49,049 --> 00:31:46,539 kind of double duties in this regard but 717 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:49,059 what Napoleon did was he took over five 718 00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:51,070 were called savants which were 719 00:31:57,340 --> 00:31:52,860 philosophers scientists engineers 720 00:32:00,850 --> 00:31:57,350 science technicians he took over 500 721 00:32:04,210 --> 00:32:00,860 of these guys on this expedition of 722 00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:04,220 conquest with him even the officers in 723 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:07,520 his own army were just befuddled because 724 00:32:12,550 --> 00:32:09,410 they didn't understand it at first and 725 00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:12,560 the scientists were all treated like on 726 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:15,590 the same level as officers like VIPs and 727 00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:17,330 that was the other thing some of his 728 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:19,460 officers and soldiers realized huh 729 00:32:25,450 --> 00:32:22,550 you know this is interesting so that 730 00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:25,460 right there speaks loudly to his intent 731 00:32:31,570 --> 00:32:29,030 of what he had planned to do in Egypt 732 00:32:33,820 --> 00:32:31,580 and sure enough once he got there and he 733 00:32:37,450 --> 00:32:33,830 deployed these guys this was the birth 734 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:37,460 of modern Egyptology okay the Napoleon's 735 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:40,370 Saban says he called them his scientists 736 00:32:45,010 --> 00:32:42,350 many of which were philosopher 737 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:45,020 scientists okay Freemason type guys and 738 00:32:51,610 --> 00:32:48,770 such these guys essentially you know 739 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:51,620 they were the first Europeans to really 740 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,230 pour through Egypt and the ruins and 741 00:32:59,490 --> 00:32:56,480 document all of this and modern 742 00:33:04,420 --> 00:32:59,500 Egyptology is a direct product of 743 00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:04,430 Napoleon's expedition hmm provocative 744 00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:09,680 and let's get into hyper geum's or hyper 745 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:11,630 geum's a little bit and this sacred 746 00:33:17,650 --> 00:33:14,690 resonance of a hundred and eleven Hertz 747 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:17,660 this comes into play with malt a little 748 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:19,130 bit because apparently there are two in 749 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:21,290 France and then the oldest one might be 750 00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:24,530 in Malta maybe Napoleon had access there 751 00:33:31,150 --> 00:33:27,710 you note he was an experienced meditator 752 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:31,160 who thought that it helped him foresee 753 00:33:36,370 --> 00:33:34,730 what might happen mm-hmm and that's 754 00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:36,380 really interesting and what makes these 755 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:39,830 hyper geum's so important well it's 756 00:33:44,650 --> 00:33:42,950 because first of all the the period in 757 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:44,660 which they're made I mean these things 758 00:33:50,010 --> 00:33:46,730 are ancient and the fact that they're 759 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,020 carved out of rock the way they are and 760 00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:52,960 the fact that 761 00:33:57,810 --> 00:33:54,609 not only are they carved out of the rock 762 00:34:00,869 --> 00:33:57,820 the way they are just imagine one big 763 00:34:03,479 --> 00:34:00,879 gigantic huge you know mountain sized 764 00:34:06,479 --> 00:34:03,489 stone and that's how these things are 765 00:34:08,309 --> 00:34:06,489 hollowed out into rooms and nooks and 766 00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:08,319 niches and doorways and passageways and 767 00:34:13,889 --> 00:34:10,929 all this but the fact that they do it in 768 00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:13,899 such a way that the acoustics the Sonics 769 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:18,270 of the thing are so accurate you know 770 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:21,490 that you have to wonder what knowledge 771 00:34:25,619 --> 00:34:23,230 what scientific and technical knowledge 772 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,629 did these ancients have and who were 773 00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:28,960 they Philby type poems what's 774 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:30,700 interesting is they were also known to 775 00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:34,240 exist in Egypt and certainly when you 776 00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:36,190 look at the men around Napoleon 777 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,020 Bonaparte and his own personal interests 778 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:40,720 but his main mentor was Gaspard Monge 779 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:43,359 who was known as you know the father of 780 00:34:48,649 --> 00:34:46,450 descriptive geometry and who himself was 781 00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:48,659 very much a philosopher scientist and 782 00:34:57,539 --> 00:34:52,599 would talk with and in school Napoleon 783 00:35:00,660 --> 00:34:57,549 in these things so Napoleon before he 784 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:00,670 even went to Malta I argue that even 785 00:35:05,849 --> 00:35:03,010 though the Anaya was mispronounce that I 786 00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:05,859 apologize the hypogeum was not we are 787 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:07,750 told was not discovered until after 788 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:12,190 Napoleon's time I suggest that maybe the 789 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:14,230 secret society is interested in these 790 00:35:19,470 --> 00:35:16,390 ancient structures already knew it was 791 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:19,480 there because you had already for a long 792 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:21,849 time you have the Knights of Malta on 793 00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:24,220 the island of Malta and you had 794 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:26,440 philosopher scientists and technicians 795 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:29,440 among them I argue that they likely 796 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:33,400 found this hypogeum on Malta and just 797 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,910 kept it secret for years so the the 798 00:35:42,089 --> 00:35:39,760 modern discovery that we're aware that's 799 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:42,099 on the books in our time I think that 800 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:44,410 was really just either a rediscovery or 801 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:47,650 it was time to go ahead and reveal this 802 00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:49,630 publicly that it's there for whatever 803 00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:52,750 reason so I argue that I suggest I 804 00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:55,480 should say that Napoleon before he went 805 00:36:00,900 --> 00:35:58,960 to Malta he was aware of the hypogeum 806 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:00,910 resistance and it was one of the things 807 00:36:06,370 --> 00:36:03,609 he was curious about and therefore my 808 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:06,380 suggestion further implies that 809 00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:08,290 someone among the Knights of Malta 810 00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:10,760 showed it to him gave him a little tour 811 00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:14,200 of it remember he took several members 812 00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:17,660 Knights and their support staff with him 813 00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:20,840 to Egypt so you know that further 814 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:23,600 suggests the possibility you know who 815 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:25,730 were these guys we don't know I argue 816 00:36:30,130 --> 00:36:28,130 that it was the again the philosopher 817 00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:30,140 scientists among the Knights of Malta I 818 00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:32,420 think we're the ones he took with him to 819 00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:35,740 Egypt so I would say that because of 820 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:39,380 what we can legitimately suspect about 821 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:42,290 his association with dhikr societies and 822 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:43,970 other groups interested in the arcane 823 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:45,890 mysteries of the past that Napoleon 824 00:36:51,690 --> 00:36:47,570 probably made quite a bit more about 825 00:36:53,170 --> 00:36:51,700 Malta than standard history offers us 826 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:53,180 mm-hmm 827 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,650 and I'm right there with you if you have 828 00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:57,200 an ancient site especially if it's some 829 00:37:02,260 --> 00:36:59,450 type of Technology I'm not surprised 830 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:02,270 that groups of people privileged people 831 00:37:07,390 --> 00:37:04,970 know about it and keep it a secret like 832 00:37:09,820 --> 00:37:07,400 I said especially if it is some type of 833 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:09,830 technology it has this sacred resonance 834 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:14,720 of 111 Hertz and as you note modern MRI 835 00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,330 machines have shown that 111 Hertz can 836 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:19,520 turn off the prefrontal cortex and 837 00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:22,760 deactivate the language centers and this 838 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:24,470 really starts to tie in nicely with 839 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:26,930 Joseph Farrell's recent microcosm and 840 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:28,760 medium which we covered with him a few 841 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:31,250 weeks back but this idea of a frequency 842 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:33,410 that plugs a person right into the 843 00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:35,810 collective unconscious this cosmic 844 00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:38,900 quantum Internet kind of thing might 845 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:41,480 these structures unlock this type of 846 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:43,850 gateway oh I think so 847 00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:47,150 I definitely think so and I think we do 848 00:37:52,750 --> 00:37:49,670 find this further into the story here 849 00:37:56,110 --> 00:37:52,760 when Napoleon goes into the Great 850 00:38:00,190 --> 00:37:56,120 Pyramid right and spend the time in the 851 00:38:03,370 --> 00:38:00,200 King's Chamber I think that one of the 852 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:03,380 reasons if not the really main personal 853 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:05,930 reason Napoleon wanted to stage from 854 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:09,590 Malta was because he thought there would 855 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:14,140 be some type of technological thematic 856 00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:17,510 likeness between what was in the 857 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:20,160 hypogeum in Malta and what he would 858 00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:23,130 find in the Great Pyramid and going back 859 00:38:26,839 --> 00:38:24,569 to you know what she pointed out before 860 00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:26,849 that yes he was an enthusiastic 861 00:38:34,539 --> 00:38:29,990 meditator believer in meditation and 862 00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:34,549 this was I think his primary motive as 863 00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:37,260 regards this particular subject we're 864 00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:40,020 talking about the acoustics of these 865 00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:41,849 ancient structures I think he fully 866 00:38:49,730 --> 00:38:44,760 intended to do what I say he ultimately 867 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:49,740 did and that was tap in to that deeper 868 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,250 level or higher level of conscious 869 00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:54,240 reality or consciousness that's out 870 00:39:00,559 --> 00:38:58,500 there and available mm-hmm mm-hmm it's 871 00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:00,569 still so much over my head but I'm 872 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:02,940 learning more and more that frequency is 873 00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:05,250 such a huge element of our reality it 874 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:08,280 seems like really dialing in and mapping 875 00:39:14,089 --> 00:39:11,520 out these frequencies can have all sorts 876 00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:14,099 of effects on the human body on 877 00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:17,270 potentially levitating stones on 878 00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:20,430 consciousness projection all sorts of 879 00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:22,380 things and it really is fascinating I 880 00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:22,980 mean even 881 00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:25,230 Tesla's famously quoted as saying if you 882 00:39:30,769 --> 00:39:27,569 want to understand the universe think in 883 00:39:32,269 --> 00:39:30,779 terms of frequency and electricity a 884 00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:32,279 couple other things but frequencies 885 00:39:37,069 --> 00:39:35,369 definitely in there and let's get into 886 00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:37,079 the great pyramid so to speak and that 887 00:39:41,539 --> 00:39:39,630 big Didier did any question because it's 888 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:41,549 definitely relevant to this tapping into 889 00:39:46,339 --> 00:39:43,650 the collective unconscious memory bank 890 00:39:49,099 --> 00:39:46,349 idea if a person thinks that's the sort 891 00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:49,109 of thing the pyramids were for but what 892 00:39:53,620 --> 00:39:51,089 are the available sources say about 893 00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:53,630 Napoleon in the Great Pyramid and that 894 00:40:00,040 --> 00:39:56,540 legendary rumor 895 00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:00,050 well the story as we know has been out 896 00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:02,240 there and presented usually as one of 897 00:40:08,980 --> 00:40:05,390 those apocryphal tales in other words it 898 00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,990 is said or someone once rumored that 899 00:40:12,190 --> 00:40:10,400 Napoleon Bonaparte 900 00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,200 spent a night in the Great Pyramid 901 00:40:19,020 --> 00:40:14,240 specifically in the King's Chamber and 902 00:40:22,770 --> 00:40:19,030 he came out pale and just mortified and 903 00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:22,780 you know just Otto lost for words and 904 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:27,020 when asked what happened he said you 905 00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:29,410 wouldn't believe me if I told you and 906 00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:32,480 that's the tale that has been making the 907 00:40:38,830 --> 00:40:34,910 rounds for years you know I wondered 908 00:40:41,710 --> 00:40:38,840 okay is there anything to this and what 909 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:41,720 you find when you do the research is 910 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:44,330 that yes there's indeed something to 911 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:49,130 this now the claims otherwise that it 912 00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,010 did not happen originated with a 913 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:54,800 gentleman named Brienne 914 00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,010 Berrien is last name he was a schoolmate 915 00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:00,560 of Napoleon's who in their adult years 916 00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:03,230 went on to work for Napoleon as one of 917 00:41:07,630 --> 00:41:04,609 his personal secretaries 918 00:41:11,950 --> 00:41:07,640 now unfortunately Burien had some ethics 919 00:41:16,270 --> 00:41:11,960 issues was caught you know violating 920 00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:16,280 various rules and ethics and was fired 921 00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,940 I believe twice by Napoleon for these 922 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,160 issues and shortcomings and basically it 923 00:41:28,690 --> 00:41:25,280 kind of pissed him off so Berean is the 924 00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:28,700 source of a lot of the negative untruths 925 00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:31,670 about napoleon you know among his 926 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:35,119 contemporaries and Berrian is widely 927 00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:37,970 recognized and has been for a while by 928 00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:40,040 modern historians as an undependable 929 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:43,340 source so Varian is the source of the 930 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:46,910 story that no napoleon didn't want to go 931 00:41:50,590 --> 00:41:48,530 inside the pyramid because he would have 932 00:41:53,050 --> 00:41:50,600 had to crawl through a tunnel and that 933 00:41:57,730 --> 00:41:53,060 was beneath him and then this gets 934 00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,740 perpetuated by early historians among 935 00:42:00,130 --> 00:41:59,359 them by the time you get in the 936 00:42:01,660 --> 00:42:00,140 twentieth century 937 00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:01,670 Christopher Harold the author of 938 00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:03,260 Bonaparte in Egypt the book I had 939 00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:07,400 mentioned earlier and since Harold wrote 940 00:42:13,329 --> 00:42:10,430 his book really Berrien as a source 941 00:42:16,059 --> 00:42:13,339 has been mostly discredited on a lot of 942 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:16,069 things about Napoleon because when you 943 00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:19,130 look at the other sources okay all the 944 00:42:22,930 --> 00:42:21,260 other biographers the contemporary 945 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:22,940 sources in the journals of these guys 946 00:42:27,370 --> 00:42:24,890 who were there with him and all the 947 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:27,380 scholarship repeatedly talks about 948 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:31,010 specific dates that he spent this day or 949 00:42:36,430 --> 00:42:33,890 the this many days or weeks at Giza 950 00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:36,440 where the pyramids are and literally at 951 00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:38,510 the pyramid and it talks about him 952 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:41,420 getting a tour of the pyramid inside and 953 00:42:46,059 --> 00:42:43,970 it talks about even the history more 954 00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,069 than one source talks about how on a 955 00:42:49,930 --> 00:42:48,079 particular date one of the journals of 956 00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:49,940 his contemporaries on a particular date 957 00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:53,150 as Napoleon was emerging from inside the 958 00:42:59,559 --> 00:42:57,200 Great Pyramid he was informed of of a 959 00:43:02,650 --> 00:42:59,569 coming military conflict at Abu QIR Bay 960 00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,660 so you know we have all these other 961 00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:05,359 sources that were there that talked 962 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:08,420 about Napoleon spending hours you know 963 00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:10,730 inside these pyramids and in the Great 964 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:13,609 Pyramid in particular you know he was 965 00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:15,650 very fascinated with it even said it was 966 00:43:20,049 --> 00:43:17,990 the thing that that fascinated him and 967 00:43:22,089 --> 00:43:20,059 scared him most of anything in the world 968 00:43:27,069 --> 00:43:22,099 that he ever saw he was quoted as saying 969 00:43:30,549 --> 00:43:27,079 that so what we have are all these 970 00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:30,559 historical reports we have the fact that 971 00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:34,430 he spent so much time in and around you 972 00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:36,470 know in Cairo and he spent so much time 973 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:39,920 in around Giza so with his fascination 974 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:42,710 with these reports of you know on other 975 00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:46,130 dates he was seen to emerge from being 976 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:47,900 inside the pyramid and crawling all over 977 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:51,910 the pyramids and such that the specific 978 00:43:58,750 --> 00:43:55,730 time that is associated with the seppuku 979 00:44:02,799 --> 00:43:58,760 folktale about the night he spent in the 980 00:44:04,329 --> 00:44:02,809 pyramid for seven hours specifically the 981 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:04,339 circumstances of all the other 982 00:44:10,029 --> 00:44:08,000 historical reports support that Napoleon 983 00:44:13,269 --> 00:44:10,039 was indeed there at the time of the 984 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:13,279 apocryphal tale and did indeed with his 985 00:44:17,289 --> 00:44:15,170 personal interest and think about all 986 00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:17,299 the effort that he had made to get to 987 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:20,630 Egypt okay and all the military fighting 988 00:44:24,130 --> 00:44:22,130 that all the stuff they had to do all 989 00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:24,140 the obstacles and he's not going to go 990 00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:26,540 inside the pyramids it's a ridiculous 991 00:44:30,850 --> 00:44:28,910 assertion that none of the you know the 992 00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:30,860 vast majority of the historians don't 993 00:44:35,650 --> 00:44:33,590 agree with that assertion either so the 994 00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:35,660 circumstances and the known facts and 995 00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:38,360 the legitimate reliable sources all 996 00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:40,340 support the idea that Napoleon did 997 00:44:46,420 --> 00:44:43,550 indeed among other times spend that 998 00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:46,430 particular night from the story that we 999 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:49,220 hear inside the pyramid inside the 1000 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:51,650 King's Chamber and when you look closer 1001 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,560 at the influence of Gaspard Monge it 1002 00:45:00,760 --> 00:44:56,960 makes even more sense that he spent the 1003 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,770 night in the King's Chamber hmm yes I 1004 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:02,960 think that's awesome to point out all 1005 00:45:07,630 --> 00:45:04,730 those sources and it definitely seems 1006 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:07,640 like we have more to go on that says he 1007 00:45:12,820 --> 00:45:10,730 was there than wasn't and I guess one of 1008 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:12,830 the big questions is what the pyramids 1009 00:45:17,170 --> 00:45:14,810 were for without that it's kind of hard 1010 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:17,180 to extrapolate anything else really the 1011 00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:19,970 ideas range from them being weapons or 1012 00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:22,400 energy sources or like we said 1013 00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:25,070 out-of-body journey machines all that's 1014 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:27,590 on the table I've also heard stories 1015 00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:30,530 that they found monoatomic gold in the 1016 00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:33,310 King's Chamber and we've talked about 1017 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:36,560 alchemy before as well where do you land 1018 00:45:41,470 --> 00:45:40,970 on the pyramids oh I think it's been all 1019 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:41,480 of it 1020 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:44,960 kind of answer almost I think it was 1021 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:48,890 built with an understanding of high 1022 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:52,610 science it was built as some type of 1023 00:46:03,010 --> 00:45:58,810 machine this structure is capable of 1024 00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:03,020 serving as a kind of a huge psycho 1025 00:46:09,070 --> 00:46:07,280 tronic processor device so to speak it 1026 00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:09,080 can be weaponized and I think at one 1027 00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:10,670 time it probably was 1028 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:14,540 it could also been used to power a city 1029 00:46:18,850 --> 00:46:16,610 of an advanced civilization it could 1030 00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:18,860 have been all these things I don't think 1031 00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:20,750 of course Napoleon didn't answer that 1032 00:46:25,330 --> 00:46:23,510 question of what it actually was and I 1033 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:25,340 don't think that was his primary 1034 00:46:29,290 --> 00:46:27,290 intention to 1035 00:46:30,910 --> 00:46:29,300 that's such a big question right I mean 1036 00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:30,920 that's a big question in our day and 1037 00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:33,230 we're coming closer to try to answer 1038 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:37,760 that but I think for him he was keenly 1039 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:41,810 interested in its psychotronic qualities 1040 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:45,410 and possibilities and I think that was 1041 00:46:52,859 --> 00:46:50,290 his main focus and I think Gaspard Monge 1042 00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:52,869 I think Gaspard Monge had suspected 1043 00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:55,240 something based on whatever he knew 1044 00:47:01,560 --> 00:46:59,170 about the pyramid and I think Monza was 1045 00:47:03,569 --> 00:47:01,570 the one that nailed it and that's what 1046 00:47:06,359 --> 00:47:03,579 allowed Napoleon to do whatever it was 1047 00:47:08,579 --> 00:47:06,369 he did that resulted in his experience 1048 00:47:11,819 --> 00:47:08,589 that he wouldn't talk about hmm 1049 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:11,829 yeah munch is an interesting guy does 1050 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:14,530 seem to kind of fit that wise wizard 1051 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:18,130 advisor archetype / Napoleon and you 1052 00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:20,730 mentioned the Mons point some 1053 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:23,710 geographical proof that relates 1054 00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:28,890 specifically to scene layers or depth or 1055 00:47:34,349 --> 00:47:31,510 underpinnings of tetrahedron or a 1056 00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:34,359 pyramidal shape and that's a curious 1057 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,079 connection as well yeah it's the the 1058 00:47:43,859 --> 00:47:40,720 Mohnish point is a point in a 1059 00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:43,869 tetrahedral object pyramidal object a 1060 00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:46,300 pyramid falls within the category of 1061 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:48,280 when you dig into the Mohnish point at 1062 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:51,910 that point at which multiple dimensions 1063 00:47:55,950 --> 00:47:53,770 intersect now 1064 00:48:00,750 --> 00:47:55,960 maj of course came to this 1065 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:00,760 mathematically and i think he wanted to 1066 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:03,730 test his idea in the great pyramid 1067 00:48:08,190 --> 00:48:06,790 because his knowledge of the pyramid at 1068 00:48:11,099 --> 00:48:08,200 the time and then certainly what he 1069 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:11,109 built upon between the time they first 1070 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:14,800 arrived at giza and could actually get 1071 00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:17,410 you know their hands so to speak on the 1072 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:19,960 pyramid and look at it and the time that 1073 00:48:24,930 --> 00:48:23,290 napoleon actually had his episode this 1074 00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:24,940 was almost a year this was several 1075 00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,510 months so Monge had a bunch of time to 1076 00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:30,160 look at the King's Chamber look at the 1077 00:48:35,250 --> 00:48:31,900 dimensions of everything do his 1078 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:35,260 calculations and apply this this concept 1079 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:38,230 we call the Mohnish point to human 1080 00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:40,930 consciousness you know over human being 1081 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:43,630 inside the pyramid and of course he used 1082 00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:46,510 his protege napoleon bonaparte 1083 00:48:52,770 --> 00:48:49,599 who was a serious practitioner of 1084 00:48:54,839 --> 00:48:52,780 meditation as the test subject now i 1085 00:48:57,150 --> 00:48:54,849 have to i say it in the book i'm going 1086 00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:57,160 to MIT right here i'm not a math guy 1087 00:49:01,050 --> 00:48:58,930 okay 1088 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:01,060 those technical aspects of this book 1089 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:04,210 were the most difficult for me to write 1090 00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:08,250 and I paid the most close attention as I 1091 00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:11,080 wrote those parts because I knew that 1092 00:49:16,590 --> 00:49:13,720 okay I got to get this right because 1093 00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:16,600 this is missus some deep stuff here now 1094 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:18,760 someone like Joseph Farrell or someone 1095 00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:21,520 who's more adept at math you know will 1096 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:24,550 more easily pick up the concepts but 1097 00:49:29,610 --> 00:49:26,170 essentially that's what we're talking 1098 00:49:32,580 --> 00:49:29,620 about was Gaspard Monge had some ideas 1099 00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:32,590 about the pyramid and he he used his 1100 00:49:39,450 --> 00:49:34,990 protege his guinea pig as it were his 1101 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:39,460 willing guinea pig I love it man I think 1102 00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:41,170 you're absolutely right there's some 1103 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:44,320 kind of connection between geometry and 1104 00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:48,370 mathematics on paper and how they relate 1105 00:49:55,770 --> 00:49:52,350 to the real reality it's why I think 1106 00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:55,780 masons are so tied up in esoteric 1107 00:50:00,930 --> 00:49:57,070 knowledge is because there is a 1108 00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:00,940 correlation there between the techniques 1109 00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:04,990 they use to build and unlocking reality 1110 00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:07,030 in multiple dimensions and consciousness 1111 00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:09,270 and that whole Pandora's box of 1112 00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:11,980 paranormal stuff that we talked about on 1113 00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:14,230 shows like this yeah and I didn't mean 1114 00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:16,630 to gloss over by any means you know 1115 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:18,430 people are wondering what well what what 1116 00:50:22,290 --> 00:50:20,770 did happen is Napoleon in there and we 1117 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:22,300 went to this Mons point have to do with 1118 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:24,370 him what I think we're talking about 1119 00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:26,650 here here's what I suggest here's my 1120 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:30,880 speculation is that Napoleon Bonaparte 1121 00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:36,010 the master at meditation already he goes 1122 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:37,240 into the King's Chamber 1123 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:41,650 he lays down inside what is popularly 1124 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:43,810 called the sarcophagus but there was 1125 00:50:48,510 --> 00:50:46,210 never anything to indicate that this 1126 00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:48,520 Pyramid was a tomb the King's Chamber 1127 00:50:56,450 --> 00:50:51,250 was ever a tomb and he lays down inside 1128 00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,460 this thing and he begins to meditate 1129 00:51:02,720 --> 00:50:59,040 at the Monge point it is my argument 1130 00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:02,730 that the sarcophagus that is where you 1131 00:51:07,550 --> 00:51:05,730 find the Mons point of the Great Pyramid 1132 00:51:11,930 --> 00:51:07,560 and I think Gaspard Monge knew this he 1133 00:51:13,580 --> 00:51:11,940 had calculated it and that's why you 1134 00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:13,590 know he had Napoleon do that 1135 00:51:18,070 --> 00:51:15,270 I think Napoleon laid in that 1136 00:51:21,860 --> 00:51:18,080 sarcophagus and during those seven hours 1137 00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:21,870 he was able to connect his consciousness 1138 00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:25,710 through meditation to he physical not 1139 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:27,900 you know much calculated it 1140 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:31,290 mathematically but you know the idea was 1141 00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:33,690 that there was a physical actual Mohnish 1142 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,480 point there's kind of a port like a 1143 00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:38,880 computer port on the back year computer 1144 00:51:44,860 --> 00:51:41,070 that you'd plug in the USB cord to write 1145 00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:44,870 and Napoleon plugged his consciousness 1146 00:51:51,470 --> 00:51:48,270 into that maj point inside the so called 1147 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:51,480 sarcophagus the granite box and took 1148 00:51:59,450 --> 00:51:54,450 just a wild ride of his life through 1149 00:52:01,280 --> 00:51:59,460 time and space yes I would say that's a 1150 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:01,290 solid hypothesis it's definitely 1151 00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,570 provocative and it's definitely in the 1152 00:52:08,930 --> 00:52:05,760 wheelhouse of things that I would 1153 00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:08,940 entertain as possibilities and as we 1154 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:10,500 close this thing out is there anything 1155 00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:12,090 else we should tell the people about new 1156 00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,160 books in the works your website or maybe 1157 00:52:20,330 --> 00:52:16,800 TV adaptations of your books anything we 1158 00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,340 should throw in well the dramatic series 1159 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:22,800 development of the Empire the wheel 1160 00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:26,130 books is getting really close to the 1161 00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:28,230 next stage and that would be the 1162 00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:31,230 association with a network and such it's 1163 00:52:35,420 --> 00:52:32,670 getting it's looking great 1164 00:52:38,510 --> 00:52:35,430 the producer has shared with me the 1165 00:52:40,310 --> 00:52:38,520 concept of the series and the historical 1166 00:52:42,590 --> 00:52:40,320 figures and the fictional characters 1167 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:42,600 that are interwoven into it so that's 1168 00:52:48,350 --> 00:52:45,810 going really well I'm working on some 1169 00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:48,360 other publishing projects and some 1170 00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:50,510 working on a little bit of fiction I'm 1171 00:52:55,820 --> 00:52:52,950 doing of course some non-fiction 1172 00:52:58,580 --> 00:52:55,830 research at the same time on a book 1173 00:53:01,790 --> 00:52:58,590 about Asian mythology and black magic 1174 00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:01,800 and dark things Wow both about that 1175 00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:05,100 might emerge here soon and of course my 1176 00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:08,460 books are available at lulu.com lu lu 1177 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:09,750 calm 1178 00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:12,930 and let me think I of course have the 1179 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,140 Walter Bosley channel at YouTube but 1180 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:18,960 yeah that's that's about all I can think 1181 00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:22,170 of off the top of my head right now nice 1182 00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:24,119 well you're a busy man good luck with 1183 00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:26,220 everything you wrote a great book here 1184 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,660 raised a lot of interesting questions 1185 00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:30,480 and I look forward to more until then 1186 00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:32,220 take care out there and thanks again for 1187 00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:38,670 your time thank you it's a beautiful day 1188 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:41,460 in the neighborhood a beautiful day for 1189 00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:43,530 a neighbor thanks for tuning in again 1190 00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:47,460 today people Walter Bosley the ESO Tarek 1191 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:51,590 Napoleon just an ice off the radar 1192 00:53:55,370 --> 00:53:53,609 episode that I've been looking forward 1193 00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:55,380 to getting out to you guys for a few 1194 00:54:00,589 --> 00:53:58,440 weeks now of course a big part of my job 1195 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:00,599 is scouring the internet for good topics 1196 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:03,000 and oftentimes that means going back to 1197 00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:04,890 some of my favorite guests and seeing if 1198 00:54:09,020 --> 00:54:06,900 they have anything new out and I 1199 00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:09,030 contacted Walter right away when I saw 1200 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:11,609 this book and said hey man I've already 1201 00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:13,770 ordered it give me a little time to read 1202 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,180 it but you'll come back and talk to me 1203 00:54:20,450 --> 00:54:18,240 about this right and luckily he was 1204 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:20,460 willing and able because this is a 1205 00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:22,650 subject matter that no one else is 1206 00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:25,470 researching and kudos to him for digging 1207 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:27,660 these things out of history and holding 1208 00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:29,970 them up to the light I definitely 1209 00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:32,099 learned a lot every time I talk to 1210 00:54:37,490 --> 00:54:33,540 Walter from that first conversation 1211 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:37,500 about latitude 33 all the way right up 1212 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,250 to today the stuff about hyper geum's or 1213 00:54:47,329 --> 00:54:44,240 hyper geum's today was really awesome 1214 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:47,339 everything from Malta to Egypt up and 1215 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:49,730 down the whole thing intrigues me and 1216 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:52,410 fortunately it's a pretty natural place 1217 00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:54,570 to start an interview about a book with 1218 00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:56,820 part one of the book and praise be 1219 00:55:02,570 --> 00:54:59,400 wouldn't you know it was also my 1220 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:02,580 favorite section Merovingian bloodlines 1221 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:05,250 are provocative as is dodging your 1222 00:55:11,180 --> 00:55:07,470 sentencing to exile and moving to the 1223 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:11,190 New Atlantis instead but part one really 1224 00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:14,970 really did it for me though Walter does 1225 00:55:21,050 --> 00:55:17,630 make a really great case that Napoleon 1226 00:55:22,350 --> 00:55:21,060 lived out his days in America not exiled 1227 00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:22,360 on an island 1228 00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:24,340 and not only is it a pretty compelling 1229 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:25,840 argument on its own 1230 00:55:31,050 --> 00:55:28,480 it fits my general view of things that 1231 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:31,060 the upper echelon never really face any 1232 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:34,210 punishment sure in a war we'll let a 1233 00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:36,850 couple thousand soldiers die per side 1234 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:39,820 but the top brass or when it comes to 1235 00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:42,010 assassinations anyone who's acting on 1236 00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:44,590 behalf of the Cabal it's generally 1237 00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:48,310 captured alive or they escape and just 1238 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:50,860 don't face a lot of consequences in most 1239 00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,610 cases he even Hitler of all people lived 1240 00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:56,880 out his days peacefully in Argentina 1241 00:56:01,110 --> 00:55:59,440 they tested the skull that was supposed 1242 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:01,120 to be his and it wasn't even a man's 1243 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:03,310 skull plus there's just so many 1244 00:56:09,150 --> 00:56:06,130 witnesses that knew him or saw him there 1245 00:56:11,580 --> 00:56:09,160 there's photographs that's probably the 1246 00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:11,590 biggest example but there's also bin 1247 00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:14,110 Laden does anyone really believe he was 1248 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:16,480 killed in the SEAL Team six raid and 1249 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:21,130 then buried at sea yeah sure most the 1250 00:56:26,070 --> 00:56:23,290 alternative accounts would say that he 1251 00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:26,080 died a few years before that but he was 1252 00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:29,500 living well until he wasn't I mean we 1253 00:56:32,910 --> 00:56:30,880 don't even really have to go down the 1254 00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:32,920 list of American presidents but Bush 1255 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:35,950 Cheney both Clinton's never held 1256 00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:38,770 accountable of course whoever really 1257 00:56:44,310 --> 00:56:42,310 killed JFK also in that Club and even 1258 00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:44,320 John Wilkes Booth is said to have gotten 1259 00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:46,600 away scot-free by some alternative 1260 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:48,100 accounts that we've talked about before 1261 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:51,370 I mean we know this it's just example 1262 00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:54,850 after example sure everyone's talking 1263 00:56:59,730 --> 00:56:57,280 about the Epstein thing now but let's 1264 00:57:02,700 --> 00:56:59,740 see who actually goes down for anything 1265 00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:02,710 and what secrets really get revealed 1266 00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:05,470 I'm skeptical but I'm watching this show 1267 00:57:12,750 --> 00:57:08,590 every day but I mean it's on MSNBC it's 1268 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:12,760 on CNN clearly there's a want to talk 1269 00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:15,490 about it a lot of the alternative 1270 00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:18,670 threads I'm seen are generally saying 1271 00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:21,520 that Epstein seemed to be a Mossad agent 1272 00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:25,420 and he not only held the blackmail file 1273 00:57:32,790 --> 00:57:29,320 but filled it on their behalf and that 1274 00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:32,800 this pressure is going to mount because 1275 00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:36,160 they're trying to force America to 1276 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:39,670 attack Iran and that kind of makes sense 1277 00:57:45,809 --> 00:57:43,450 to me what we're gonna see I have a show 1278 00:57:47,730 --> 00:57:45,819 on the books about this scheduled for 1279 00:57:51,779 --> 00:57:47,740 next month because I want to make sure 1280 00:57:53,819 --> 00:57:51,789 we have the full story to talk about I'd 1281 00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:53,829 rather have a show that's deep and 1282 00:57:59,370 --> 00:57:56,319 complete on this subject rather than 1283 00:58:00,839 --> 00:57:59,380 just having the one that's first so we 1284 00:58:04,289 --> 00:58:00,849 will get into it don't you worry about 1285 00:58:06,029 --> 00:58:04,299 that but anyway so the idea that 1286 00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:06,039 Napoleon's punishment would just be a 1287 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:08,200 story we tell kids in school doesn't 1288 00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:10,930 surprise me either when very few people 1289 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:14,500 on that top rung ever really fall but as 1290 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:16,930 I said I really needed my memory 1291 00:58:22,829 --> 00:58:19,690 refreshed when it came to Napoleon's bio 1292 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:22,839 in general and his conflicts I know 1293 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:25,720 Walter considers himself a fan of the 1294 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,170 man 1295 00:58:31,529 --> 00:58:29,200 and it is possible that he really did 1296 00:58:34,349 --> 00:58:31,539 make things better for the citizens of 1297 00:58:37,740 --> 00:58:34,359 the places he conquered maybe he was the 1298 00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,750 original breaker of chains but a lot of 1299 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:39,760 conquerors tell themselves that they've 1300 00:58:45,569 --> 00:58:41,730 made things better for the people who 1301 00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:45,579 survived their invasion and that's easy 1302 00:58:51,569 --> 00:58:48,700 to say right I mean if your friends or 1303 00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:51,579 family died fighting him off you 1304 00:58:57,390 --> 00:58:53,500 probably wouldn't be swayed with a 1305 00:58:59,099 --> 00:58:57,400 better tax rate and as I said in the 1306 00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,109 interview you can read a lot of nasty 1307 00:59:03,450 --> 00:59:01,839 stuff about him and Walter isn't denying 1308 00:59:05,609 --> 00:59:03,460 that he's just saying that it's 1309 00:59:08,490 --> 00:59:05,619 propaganda cooked up by his political 1310 00:59:10,940 --> 00:59:08,500 enemies and that's where it's gonna get 1311 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:10,950 really fuzzy because how do you sit in 1312 00:59:16,109 --> 00:59:13,630 2019 and make a conclusion that you can 1313 00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:16,119 feel comfortable about win such a thing 1314 00:59:21,569 --> 00:59:18,760 as British Imperial propaganda is on the 1315 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:21,579 table because I'm definitely not putting 1316 00:59:26,670 --> 00:59:24,670 anything past them either so like Walter 1317 00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:26,680 said the truth is likely somewhere in 1318 00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:29,049 the middle and you definitely don't have 1319 00:59:35,309 --> 00:59:31,599 to be a fan of the guy to be interested 1320 00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:35,319 in his esoteric interests that's the 1321 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:37,990 point here and it was a fun show I know 1322 00:59:43,410 --> 00:59:41,680 we're pretty deeply behind schedule this 1323 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:43,420 month this is only the third show to 1324 00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,569 come out and it's the 23rd but our 1325 00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:49,119 editor moved on to other things so my 1326 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:49,900 lovely why 1327 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:52,750 has been doing it again and it's just 1328 00:59:57,630 --> 00:59:55,210 not efficient for us because if we have 1329 01:00:00,210 --> 00:59:57,640 plans together then no work is getting 1330 01:00:04,859 --> 01:00:00,220 done as opposed to having an editor who 1331 01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,869 would be working during that time so I'm 1332 01:00:10,170 --> 01:00:06,640 in the market again it's nice to save 1333 01:00:13,319 --> 01:00:10,180 money but I'm gonna be scouting for 1334 01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:13,329 editors for the next few weeks so we can 1335 01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:15,849 free up her time again and get back to 1336 01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:18,190 being more consistent we had it there 1337 01:00:24,029 --> 01:00:21,760 for a while but it has been a very crazy 1338 01:00:26,819 --> 01:00:24,039 and unusual month putting the finishing 1339 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:26,829 touches on the website getting ready for 1340 01:00:33,089 --> 01:00:30,210 that launch on the 5th of August 1341 01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:33,099 comic-con was also this past weekend and 1342 01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:35,109 for the first time in the 10 years that 1343 01:00:41,099 --> 01:00:37,390 I've lived in San Diego I had a badge 1344 01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:41,109 with my name on it so that was fun it 1345 01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:44,140 was a nice little staycation and a nice 1346 01:00:48,180 --> 01:00:45,510 little distraction 1347 01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:48,190 obviously other things have factored 1348 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:51,670 into this month as well but what can I 1349 01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:54,210 say we're hustling I promise you that 1350 01:01:00,750 --> 01:00:57,520 also in THC news this month's joint 1351 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:00,760 session is coming up super soon the 25th 1352 01:01:08,250 --> 01:01:04,510 at 7:00 p.m. Pacific time that is this 1353 01:01:11,279 --> 01:01:08,260 Thursday so feel free to join me live or 1354 01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:11,289 join THD plus to see it on your own time 1355 01:01:16,769 --> 01:01:14,260 if you're interested and of course the 1356 01:01:19,019 --> 01:01:16,779 main attraction to being a higher side 1357 01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,029 chats plus member is treating yourself 1358 01:01:23,609 --> 01:01:21,520 to the full two hour episodes of THC 1359 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:23,619 rather than just the first hour that you 1360 01:01:29,210 --> 01:01:26,170 get for free and still devoid of 1361 01:01:31,799 --> 01:01:29,220 sponsorships I would add I've had a few 1362 01:01:33,809 --> 01:01:31,809 sponsor requests this year saying that 1363 01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:33,819 I'm leaving a lot of money on the table 1364 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:36,160 by not putting ads at least in the free 1365 01:01:41,819 --> 01:01:39,609 show and not only that but then that 1366 01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:41,829 would push people to plus because they'd 1367 01:01:47,339 --> 01:01:44,470 want to avoid the ads and I get it 1368 01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:47,349 plenty of shows do that I don't like it 1369 01:01:53,279 --> 01:01:50,079 the Plus memberships are enough for me 1370 01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:53,289 to get by on and the corporation's can't 1371 01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:56,319 buy me you will never see that happen as 1372 01:02:01,370 --> 01:01:59,200 long as we stay listener-supported and I 1373 01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:01,380 don't see any reason why we wouldn't 1374 01:02:05,820 --> 01:02:03,790 thanks to all you guys who take 1375 01:02:08,070 --> 01:02:05,830 plunge it is the best feeling in the 1376 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:08,080 world really to know that this is my job 1377 01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:11,170 and so like every episode you can listen 1378 01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:14,200 to twice as much show today with Walter 1379 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:17,200 where we get into stuff like the 1,000 1380 01:02:22,350 --> 01:02:20,290 year conspiracy an expose on an old 1381 01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:22,360 prussian group that loves to infiltrate 1382 01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:25,120 their enemies and then play them against 1383 01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:25,780 each other 1384 01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:29,190 known as the society of lizards 1385 01:02:33,930 --> 01:02:31,150 definitely something you don't hear 1386 01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:33,940 about every day and also very 1387 01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:37,150 fascinating and as I kind of mentioned 1388 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:39,760 in this wrap-up we got into that 1389 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:43,690 question of if the real Napoleon was the 1390 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:46,450 one that was actually exiled and I'll 1391 01:02:52,890 --> 01:02:50,530 tell you I am not so sure and then 1392 01:02:55,380 --> 01:02:52,900 towards the end of the show we had to 1393 01:02:57,690 --> 01:02:55,390 save some time for ufology because it's 1394 01:03:00,330 --> 01:02:57,700 been such a staple of Walter's previous 1395 01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:00,340 appearances he has this military and 1396 01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:02,830 counterintelligence background and of 1397 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:05,590 course it's so hot right now but we got 1398 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:08,050 into how Walter's background actually 1399 01:03:14,610 --> 01:03:10,810 affects his thoughts and analysis of the 1400 01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:14,620 current ufology news and I appreciate 1401 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:16,630 his analysis there as well all 1402 01:03:22,290 --> 01:03:18,970 interesting stuff I try to make it worth 1403 01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:22,300 your while in fact I tried to build THC 1404 01:03:27,150 --> 01:03:25,300 to be a triple win we focus solely on 1405 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:27,160 the guests and promoting their work in a 1406 01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:30,370 professional fashion to a decent sized 1407 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:33,310 audience so they win and we have the 1408 01:03:36,810 --> 01:03:35,290 Plus system so I can afford to do this 1409 01:03:38,670 --> 01:03:36,820 for a living and instead of just asking 1410 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:38,680 you for donations and you getting 1411 01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:42,370 nothing or making you listen to ads you 1412 01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:44,380 can make the choice to say hey I like 1413 01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:46,420 THC and the way this guy interviews 1414 01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:48,640 people I got to hear those full shows 1415 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:50,470 and right there 1416 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:52,690 I'm counting two more wins so come over 1417 01:03:57,090 --> 01:03:55,090 the plus side you'll love it I love it 1418 01:03:58,980 --> 01:03:57,100 and we'll be best friends but I guess 1419 01:04:01,710 --> 01:03:58,990 I'm getting out of here big thanks again 1420 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:01,720 to the Boz Walter Bosley never one to 1421 01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:04,210 disappoint and I'll see you next time 1422 01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:06,400 your move secret mission takers 1423 01:04:10,650 --> 01:04:08,830 bloodline makers and Island Exile 1424 01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:10,660 punishment fakers 1425 01:04:26,329 --> 01:04:17,049 your [\h__\h] move no one knows but it's 1426 01:04:40,329 --> 01:04:32,239 behind the lights and no one knows what 1427 01:04:49,449 --> 01:04:40,339 it's like to be hated to be fated to 1428 01:05:01,460 --> 01:04:49,459 telling only lies but my dreams aren't 1429 01:05:14,850 --> 01:05:05,769 [Music] 1430 01:05:20,130 --> 01:05:14,860 lonely since they exposed me on THC 1431 01:05:24,730 --> 01:05:20,140 [Music] 1432 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:24,740 no one knows what it's like to feel 1433 01:05:48,370 --> 01:05:40,480 and no one bites back is hard on their 1434 01:06:01,600 --> 01:05:48,380 anger love my pain one can show through 1435 01:06:10,620 --> 01:06:01,610 but my dreams heart is empty has my car 1436 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:19,070 it's lonely sake exposed me on TMZ 1437 01:07:08,820 --> 01:06:59,950 but my dream 1438 01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:08,830 our tents empty as my conscience seems 1439 01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:11,550 to be 1440 01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:14,510 I have 1441 01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:24,550 oh wait only since they exposed me on 1442 01:07:31,849 --> 01:07:26,910 THC 1443 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:31,859 [Music] 1444 01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:36,730 no one knows what it's like to be the 1445 01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:47,740 behind